What are our standards for hosting providers? #5

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opened 2025-12-20 00:01:49 +00:00 by tom · 6 comments
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Is there anything we do/don't want in a provider? Ethics/scale/location?

Is there anything we do/don't want in a provider? Ethics/scale/location?
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Do we need to have IPv4 everywhere - if only to avoid cutting off the rest of our network

Do we need to have IPv4 everywhere - if only to avoid cutting off the rest of our network
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"Not in the US" feels like an obvious one, and make sense from a latency PoV anyway, assuming the user base will likely be mostly European.

The EU seems to be intent on matching the UK and US on Orwellian online regulations, but it we exclude it that doesn't leave many options!

Aside from that, IPv6 support is an obvious requirement - I'd hope there weren't many places not offering it these days, but worth checking.

"Not in the US" feels like an obvious one, and make sense from a latency PoV anyway, assuming the user base will likely be mostly European. The EU seems to be intent on matching the UK and US on Orwellian online regulations, but it we exclude it that doesn't leave many options! Aside from that, IPv6 support is an obvious requirement - I'd hope there weren't many places not offering it these days, but worth checking.
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Something not mentioned in the OP - do we use "high level" services (like database aaS) or just VMs ?

Something not mentioned in the OP - do we use "high level" services (like database aaS) or just VMs ?
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Maybe on the "where is data?" thing, we should aim for being able to easily move? Not sure I can point at a specific place and call it fine. Perhaps also, "make sure we can flee" makes it just a price/tech question?

v6 seems like something we want, though also at least some v4 - even just enough to connect to the rest of our infra. accessibility thing too - not everyone will have v6

Maybe on the "where is data?" thing, we should aim for being able to easily move? Not sure I can point at a specific place and call it fine. Perhaps also, "make sure we can flee" makes it just a price/tech question? v6 seems like something we want, though also at least some v4 - even just enough to connect to the rest of our infra. accessibility thing too - not everyone will have v6
tom referenced this issue from a commit 2025-12-27 15:01:47 +00:00
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I guess the comments about lock-in in #4 (comment) apply to using our chosen provider's non-VM services too?

Something generic like S3 storage would be fine - pretty easy to migrate if necessary. Anything more custom / provider-specific I'd be much more wary about.

I guess the comments about lock-in in https://forge.deathbycomputers.co.uk/spoons.technology/plots/issues/4#issuecomment-19 apply to using our chosen provider's non-VM services too? Something generic like S3 storage would be fine - pretty easy to migrate if necessary. Anything more custom / provider-specific I'd be much more wary about.
tom referenced this issue from a commit 2025-12-28 09:05:12 +00:00
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Yeah - non-VM foo feels like the lock-in risk. My thought was pretty much that S3-ish storage would be fine, and probably managed databases.

Yeah - non-VM foo feels like the lock-in risk. My thought was pretty much that S3-ish storage would be fine, and probably managed databases.
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